I don’t
follow rap artists for their personal or political views: if I did, I would be
a horrible fucking person. I mean, have you heard about how some of these guys
feel about women? But Kanye West is a special snowflake, in that he’s
incredibly outspoken about what he feels are unique views but are really shared
talking points conceived by the alt-right, white supremacists, and other
supporters of the fat couch in the White House that will still likely kill us
all just to make a few more bucks, and yet, he's a fucking moron who admits to
not studying history and doesn't read books. His stance on slavery, especially, had
lost him a significant number of fans and inspired thinkpieces from many
journalists and music critics who proclaimed him “cancelled” and told anyone
who would listen that they would never listen to any of Kanye’s music ever
again.
Until West
debuted his eighth solo “album”, the seven-track, twenty-three minute,
self-produced (with a bunch of collaborators, as is his way) ye, at an
exclusive listening party in Wyoming, where he’s been holed up in a studio
prepping his label, G.O.O.D. Music, for their summer 2018 lineup. ye is merely the second
of five projects allegedly coming our way (following last week’s Daytona from
Pusha T, which made a lot of waves, almost all of which stem from a single track and
not from that album as a whole), but it’s the one everyone was most curious
about, so those same fans, journalists, and music critics excitedly boarded
flights to Wyoming and have praised Kanye as a genius, dancing along to soul
samples and surprise celebrity sightings at the party, exposing themselves as
the starfuckers they truly are. It apparently never occurred to any of these folks
that Kanye West was merely using them to promote his product and further his own
agenda, as everything the man does stirs up the media machine, so they fell
right into his trap.
Anyway, as I
wrote above, ye is Kanye’s eighth album. It was announced almost immediately
after his last project, the never-truly-completed The Life of Pablo, and was
once called Turbo-Grafx-16, after a gaming console that most of his stans aren’t
familiar with, as it was well before their time. (It was also once called Love Everybody, and the album cover was to feature a photo of the doctor whose negligence killed his mother, Donda West, on the operating table during a plastic surgery procedure: 'Ye was trying to let go of his anger and forgive the man, but the doctor quickly shot that idea down, so I assume that concept was also abandoned. (I almost wrote "cutting-room floor" there, but that would have been insensitive.)) After suffering a mental breakdown during his Saint Pablo
tour (and possibly destroying his working relationship with his Throne partner and "big brother", Jay-Z, who currently wants nothing to do with the man), he cancelled the remainder of the dates and checked himself into a
hospital. Upon release, he snuck away to the rural environment of Wyoming to
collect his thoughts, and when he was ready, he chose to give this whole music
thing another go. (He also chose to open his mouth about his continuing Trump
support, as living in a world of his own making prevents him from seeing just
how fucked up shit really is out here, but one could argue that he’s always
lived in his head, except for that one moment of clarity post-Hurricane Katrina.
Living exclusively in your head can be a bad thing, though.)
ye comes
during a time when ‘Ye is only interested in releasing short projects, the
opposite of the double- and triple-albums his current competitors drop on a
regular basis in the hopes of gaming the streaming system and earning gold and
platinum plaques much more quickly. The album artwork is a photograph he took
on his iPhone on the way to the listening party, a far cry from the $85,000 he
absolutely had to spend on Pusha T’s Daytona cover. Although the album did drop
on its intended release date of June 1, it wasn’t made available until well
after midnight on the day of, because Kanye West believes himself to be above all
rules. Many will say that none of the negative stuff he's done will matter if the music is
any good. I believe that you, as a human being, are smart enough and capable of
believing two things at once: that Kanye West is very good at making music, and
that Kanye West is a fucking idiot.
Speaking of
believing two things at once, today’s write-up is actually a combination Gut
Reaction and Reader Review post, as frequent contributor Taylor has graciously
offered up his own thoughts on ye to accompany mine. So keep in mind whose
viewpoint you’re contesting in the comments section, you two.
1. I THOUGHT
ABOUT KILLING YOU
TAYLOR: Instead
of starting off with a song, Mr. West does about two minutes of saying
absolutely nothing, and then goes on to do the worst impersonation of a trap
rapper I have ever heard. The beat is the saving grace: it's kind of simplistic
with its choir and its hypnotic drum pattern, almost making you feel like
you're listening to a modern version of Old Kanye. I say “almost” because lines
like, "Ye, Ye, Ye, Season, [censored], we obey" and, "Get so
bright, it's no sun" ruin the vibe with attempts at cleverness, over-simplicity,
and over-complexity. How can a song be both over-simplistic and over-complex?
You'll have to ask Mr. West about that.
MAX: ye
opens with a spoken-word intro from our host with light musical accompaniment,
which starts off bleak for shock value’s sake, but with his dark thoughts soon
turning onto themselves, his self-awareness attempting to embolden his
pretention. And then the one-verse wonder kicks off over the same instrumental,
and it’s bland as hell. But then the real beat kicks in, and I regret to inform
everyone that it is actually fire. Lyrically, I wish he had stuck with the
introduction’s theme, as his self-awareness flies out the window almost
immediately, even though he may have been on the verge of a breakthrough. Okay,
not really, but his obvious trolling could have been an entertaining diversion.
But that beat though. I wonder if the rest of ye will hurt my head this much.
(I assume so.)
2. YIKES
T: If you've
listened to any of Kanye’s albums from My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and
before, then you’ve likely noticed that the rhymes are at times subversive, clever,
and witty. You'll see a rapper who could easily impress anybody with his
deceptive looks and freestyle skills. Now listen to “Yikes” and compare it to
any of the tracks on any of those albums. It seems that Mr. West has forgotten
how to be an entertainer and is now in full on "artiste" mode, and
yes the “e” is intentional. Kanye is so focused with vocal inflections and
making words sound cool that he seemingly has nothing to say and no idea how to
rap, and this is a guy with cred we're talking about. Like the previous track,
the beat is the saving grace here: it has a grimy factor to it that rappers would
just die to spit over (I nominate ScHoolboy Q). So far, the beats on ye are
keeping me from banging my head on the desk in frustration.
M: The music
underneath “Yikes” was alright. It was simple, but pretty fucking catchy, and
it could have easily slid onto Daytona. Was Kanye the best artist to rap over
it, though? He usually never is, and that holds true on “Yikes”, an aggressive
three-verse tirade about how his meds have turned him into a superhero. Or
something. I will applaud the fact that he doesn’t believe his mental illness
is anything to be ashamed of: by seemingly embracing his diagnosis, he is
taking the power back, and that could possibly inspire a lot of people. But
this is still Kanye West we’re talking about here, so he fumbles the ball by
defending Def Jam Records founder Russell Simmons from his recent rape
allegations (which were recently dropped, sure, but that still isn’t a hill
worth dying on, ‘Ye) and altering recent history by believing that he didn’t
get verbally smacked down on TMZ by Van Lathan. Our host uses a fairly engaging
flow without saying much of anything: “Yikes” could have earned a spot on my
playlist had West not proven himself to be a musical genius-slash-huge asshole
I’d rather not support. (There will be no attempt by me to suggest actually
purchasing ye in any form at any point during this review. I like buying stuff from artists
that deserve the support, but for now, feel free to do whatever the fuck you
want in order to hear this project. I won’t tell.) Two notes I found intriguing, though: (a) both Reverend
Run and Russell Simmons, who are brothers, are mentioned within the same verse,
which is certainly the only time that’s ever happened in 2018, if ever, and (b)
let’s all read into shit and say that the line, “Hundred grand’ll make your
best friends turn to opps” is a subliminal aimed squarely at one Aubrey Graham,
who is (allegedly) currently offering just that for dirt on his current
nemesis, Kanye’s good friend and thunder buddy Pusha T.
3. ALL MINE
(FEAT. TY DOLLA $IGN & VALEE)
T: Finally,
we get a Kanye West that at least remembers how he’s performed before. The flow
is definitely classic Kanye, with the vocal inflections, witty lines, and
everything else that comes with... except the lyrics. They lack
meaning and purpose: I couldn't find any message other than, "I'm an
artist, watch me say absolutely nothing while you love it.” The music also
receives a severe downgrade: aside from the strings at the very beginning, the
gunshot effects laid in throughout, and Ty Dolla $ign’s singing, none of this
is interesting. I could go so far as to say it makes Yeezus' production sound
good.
M: Oh cool,
a gross Kanye sex rap. Can’t have a ‘Ye project without one of these. And this
one is especially offensive to the senses of anyone with any type of genitalia:
actual bars include, “I love your titties ‘cause they prove I can focus on two
things at once” and “None of us would be here without cum”. Ugh. I have to
assume he writes the sex stuff himself, because otherwise all of his co-writers
must have absolutely no idea how sex works. Our host brags about wasting time
with “basic” girls because he can, which sounds like he’s compensating for
something, while he blackmails the newest G.O.O.D. Music signee Valee (whose
debut EP, GOOD Job, You Found Me, while not a part of his label’s summer
promotion, dropped earlier this year) into comparing his ejaculate with a
“genie out the bottle”, which, yeah, “All Mine” is really fucking terrible, you
two.
4. WOULDN’T
LEAVE (FEAT. PARTYNEXTDOOR, TY DOLLA $IGN, & JEREMIH)
T: This is
Kanye West's love letter to his wife Kim Kardashian West. But don’t come to “Wouldn’t
Leave” looking for vulnerability or sentiment: this falls cleanly into the
same-old, same-old "I'm devoted, we're going to make it through this"
bin, but with a side of pretentiousness added for flavor. The music here is melodic
and somewhat emotional, so you can at least feel Kanye's every word even if there’s
no substance to be found. Sometimes, adding a piano and some 808 drum hits does
the trick.
M: For a
song ostensibly about how much Kanye loves his wife, there’s no there there on
“Wouldn’t Leave”. The music underneath barely fucking exists, which wouldn’t be
a problem if #MAGA were a compelling-enough artist to distract the listener
from focusing on the empty space, and on here, he absolutely is not. Our host
touches on how his acting like an absolute goddamn moron in public keeps
fucking up his relationship with Kim, but he feels empowered by her love and
support and will continue to do stupid shit anyway (Yep, the whole “slavery was
a choice” thing pops up on here) because she refuses to leave him. He calls in
no less than three separate crooners to help push whatever message there
allegedly is on here across. I get that he loves his wife and doesn’t feel like
he deserves her. That’s relatable. And I fully understand how someone can fuck
up even with the unconditional support of their partner. That happens often.
It’s likely happened to you in some fashion. But it’s really fucked up of him
to try to wave away his slavery comments the way he does at the beginning of
“Wouldn’t Leave”. “Oh, you know, ‘Ye’s gonna ‘Ye!”, right? No. Fuck that shit.
What he said was disrespectful to a huge swath of people, including his own
fucking ancestors. That’s not okay. Also, this track was boring as shit,
although I will admit Jeremih and Ty Dolla $ign came across as okay doing the
service they were paid to provide. (I’m no fan of PARTYNEXTDOOR. Sue me.)
5. NO MISTAKES
(FEAT. CHARLIE WILSON & KID CUDI)
T: Best song
on the album. Forget about Kanye's lyrics, though: the star of the show is the
instrumental, which chooses the perfect sample choice to brings out the
waterworks of even the toughest men. This actually feels emotional and
substantial, giving ye a weight that it hasn’t yet reached nor even deserved.
Of course Kanye tries his best to ruin everything with his now-common
unsubstantial lyrics, but even though he gives it his all with the boasts, he
gets overwhelmed by the music, thus
saving the track. Anybody else think somebody else has taken over Mr. West's
body?
M: Do you
think T.I. is offended by the line, “I don’t take advice from people less
successful than me”? The entirely of “Ye vs. The People” (which, thankfully,
didn’t make this “album”) consists of our host flat-out ignoring all of Tip’s
criticisms: it was basically a tweeted photo of a text exchange set to a beat.
Anywho, “No Mistakes” is a one-verse wonder where said one-verse wanders in
from a completely different planet: the hook, provided by Charlie Wilson (I had
been wondering where he was hiding) and The Need For Speed’s Kid Cudi,
resuscitates our host’s more soulful sound and was clearly intended for a love
song, perhaps one that would serve as a coda for “Wouldn’t Leave”, but ‘Ye
can’t be bothered with all that shit, spouting random nonsense while claiming he’s
has “a shaky-ass year” (although some of his lines toward the end of his verse
could be interpreted as an actual shot at Drake, unlike that fake theory from above that I'm pushing). “No Mistakes” is a no from me, dawg. Wilson and Mescudi both sounded
just fine, but what the fuck were they even doing on here? Also, Kanye West no
longer associates with anyone that is more successful than he is. Insert Slick
Rick vocal sample from “Hey Young World” here.
6. GHOST
TOWN (FEAT. JOHN LEGEND, KID CUDI, & 070 SHAKE)
T: With the
worst track on the album, Kanye attempts to go for that anthemic My Beautiful
Dark Twisted Fantasy-type sound, while mixing in a little bit of 808’s and
Heartbreak, and the result is a confused mess that doesn't know what it wants
to be. It feels like one big pity party, except the pity has been replaced by
arrogance and egocentricity. It's got a soundtrack of rockin' guitars and distorted
synths that ultimately grate on the ears, in addition to lyrics that mainly
consist of the various contributors yelling out whatever comes to mind that
they feel is "emotional". There is nothing about this song that warrants
your time.
M: If this
is a preview of what we should expect from next week’s West/Cudi collaboration
Kids See Ghosts (which it might be, as this was allegedly included on an early
tracklist of that future project), then it’s possible that it could be decent,
especially if that project features the same lack of ‘Ye that “Ghost Town”
does. (Which it won’t, but it’s nice to dream again.) Musically, this track
evokes My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, with the production (duties were
split amongst Francis and the Lights and West himself, as well as others)
recreating the overall mood of that project, but while our host delivers one
(terrible, let’s be real) verse, more screen time is dedicated to Rhymefest’s songwriting buddy John Legend, Cudi, and newcomer 070 Shake, who provides a long-ass
outro that sounded pretty damn good. Mescudi was whatever, but he fit the
musical backing much more seamlessly than our host. Don’t go into this one
expecting a “song” in the traditional sense. Or, even better, don’t go into
this one: 070 Shake’s going to have at least one more appearance you can check
out instead. That’s how this industry works.
7. VIOLENT
CRIMES (FEAT. DEJ LOAF, TY DOLLA $IGN, & NICKI MINAJ)
T: We've
reached the end of ye with a beat that's retro, but modern at the same time.
The synths, in combination with the piano, provide an emotional backdrop which
allows Kanye the rare moment to let go of his feelings, even if everybody knows
they're bullshit. Kanye's performance holds a bit more weight thanks to the
music, but there are songs where he talks about his family in a better, more
substantial way. Credit to the beat,
though, for weaving and turning in such a seductive way: his collaborators
behind the boards are the real heroes tonight, because we all know modern-day Kanye West couldn't produce an
album all by himself.
M: ye ends
with a father wishing that his daughters wouldn’t ever grow up, a logical
progression of Kanye’s lines from waaaaaaaay back on Late Registration’s “We
Major” (and also his verse on Watch The Throne’s “New Day”, albeit
gender-swapped). His concerns are valid, especially given his life in the
public eye, so for a moment you’ll feel for the man’s struggle, right up until
you realize that his daughters (and his son) are Kardashians and are, of
course, fucked. But I sympathize with the sentiment: “Violent Crimes” contains
some of the most relatable lyrics of Kanye’s career. Why is it called “Violent
Crimes”, though? Well, at one point he fantasizes about beating the shit out of
his daughter’s partner for mistreating her, and who among us with kids hasn’t
thought about doing that exact same thing to anyone who wrongs their family? The
problem here, and it's a fucking huge one, is that it seems like it just occurred recently to Kanye that his
daughters, and all women, are human beings with autonomy, so while the
sentiment is one that many will relate to, his descriptions of his various
concerns come across as side-eye worthy (especially his worrying about the eventual shape of his daughters' grown-up bodies, which honestly does not matter, guys are fucking creeps), and the fact that they appear on an
“album” positioned so closely to another song where our host treats “basic”
girls as sperm receptacles dilutes the message significantly, as Kanye West is
one of those Internet pervs he’s so fucking worried about . Musically, there
were a lot of questionable choices, as well. The instrumental is slow and
steady, which gels with the subject matter: setting these words to the beat
from “Yikes” would be borderline sociopathic behavior. But Dej Loaf? Not my
first, second, or even tenth choice. And throwing in that voicemail from Nicki
Minaj at the very end just reinforces the fact that she wrote Kanye’s
verse, which isn’t in any way a bad thing, but it’s weird to hang a lantern on
it while the track is still playing.
THE LAST
WORD:
T: ye is inconsistent
and unsubstantial. The lyrics are those of someone trying to rap like Kanye
West and are so forced that I lost faith in the man while writing this review. The
production is also inconsistent, but listening to the melancholic beats made me
feel like this project had a bit of potential, like there could have been
something if he had spent more time in the kitchen. Which is the main problem
with ye: the album isn't developed enough. It's almost as if Mr. West now believes that
quality control isn’t a concept he needs to take seriously, and that, coupled
with his slipping grasp on reality and his support of Trump, whose name is not
synonymous with quality, produced this album. Even though it's short, and even
though there's some strands of good ideas here, you'd be better off listening to
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, a relic from a bygone era when Trump wasn't
president and Kanye West had the ambition and drive, if not the common sense,
to craft one of the finest pop albums ever made.
M: There are
many reviews, tweets, and IG posts from Kanye West stans, alt-right fucks, and
music critics who would rather stay on the good side of any artist instead of
respecting them as human beings who don’t always put out perfect product, and
anything I say that opposes that status quo could be seen as heresy for the
remaining twenty-four hours where ye will still be relevant, so I want to make
this very very clear: Kanye West’s ye isn’t very good. At all. It sounds like a
project rushed to meet an arbitrary deadline of his own making, one where all
of the ingredients combine to form his second-worst album behind Yeezus, which
at least had an entirely new and different sound going for it. The praise I’m
seeing online about how ye is like if My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy had a baby
with Yeezus, but that baby kept getting bit by their dog The Life of Pablo so
they abandoned the baby at the Late Registration firehouse, is all ridiculous,
but also incredibly accurate, and here’s why: ye doesn’t achieve anything,
literally anything new of its own making. All of this shit is stuff Kanye has
done before, and he’s done it better. His moronic beliefs and his family’s
horrible influence aside, ye manages exactly one-and-a-half decent tracks (“Yikes”
and the part of “I Thought About Killing You” when the actual instrumental
kicks in, but only if you pay more attention to the music and not any
of the bullshit he spouts) that, if this were any other artist, would be
celebrated, but this is Kanye West. He’s created classics. None of this will
ever meet those qualifications. And so everyone can go about the rest of their
lives ignoring the fact that this even exists, because it adds nothing to your
quality of life. If you still choose to listen to it as some form of misplaced
rebellion, that’s on you. Just lower your expectations significantly: West may
think of himself as a god, but that doesn’t make him one.
-Max &
Taylor
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I mean, if you want.
I can honestly say with hesitation that I’ve REVILED this whore ever since he picked up a microphone. He’s also not as musically brilliant as everyone proclaims him to be. Surprised that it took the rest of the world 14 years to figure that shit out.
ReplyDeleteFuck Kanye West and fuck his in-laws.
Its weird how its mostly white people who appear to be super offended by Kanye's recent talks. He already clarified, though it was already obvious what he meant if you have a brain, that when he said slavery is a choice he meant that if youre born into a certain situation you end up being locked into a mode of thought (especiall if the situation has been going on for 400 years) that you automatically feel you cant get out of, hence the importance of thinking *differently* (emphasised for the irony of the outcome of his doing so...)
ReplyDeleteYou know, Sarte said the same thing about being tortured, that you choose whether youre free or not. And what Ye said is relevant to today and how we get locked into certain ideologies - such as the notion that democracy is real (loool) when its really determined by economic forces and flows that must be maintained, or that if youre black you really ought to vote Democrat, when it doesnt really matter given the first point, or that Obama was automatically a brilliant liberal even though he was the fucking Drone King and murdered thousands of people in his two terms.
You should get your head out your ass and re-review the record, its excellent.
Found the snowflake!
DeleteMax,what does that even mean? You spent the entire review shitting on the record because of Kanye's apparent ignorance and you respond like a moron.
Deleteits good to see that other long term kanye fans who are also black are reading this blog.
DeleteI spent about two-thirds of the body of the review shitting on the songs themselves, whether the beats were weak (most, but not all, were) or the lyrics were terrible (all of them, and while he didn't write them all, he CHOSE them all, so he's still responsible). Whereas you can only say the album is "excellent" without offering any evidence. At least I gave my thoughts, which rambled than usual due to the quick turnaround of this piece, but I don't care about what Kanye "meant", I care about what he SAID, and he hasn't done anything to defend himself properly.
DeleteFor someone who reviews rap records you're telling me you dont try to uncover what is meant by what is said? I dont see why a rapper should speak differently in interviews than he does on records, if you dont get it you need to decode in both. And he did "defend" himself to the extent that he elaborated on his thoughts further after all the misleading headlines blew up, its on twitter still probably.
DeleteI dislike that he gives any time at all to that grotesque moron Trump, but only as much as I dislike that Pusha T helped Hilary's campaign (everyones on prison reform right now - shes a major part of the reason its needed!), but to "cancel" someone who continually pushes the medium forward because his views dont conform with your own is just fucking stupid, really. What's the endgame, that he shouldnt make music?
Reasons why 'ye' is excellent:
- He's perfected the sonic collage approach he put forward in Yeezus (which both reviewers seem to hate for some reason, I suspect neither of you have really listened to much music outside of rap, try some Brian Wilson or the Velvet Underground or something) through seamless transitions (as on the first track and No Mistakes), the alignment of vocal delivery with sound effects (last verses of first track and All Mine especially), and leaving it bare and ragged where appropriate (Ghost Town, seeing the seams here lends itself to the honest pain and yearning of the lyrics; the sonics fall apart as much as the performers' mindset)
- Lyrically his expression of mental illness is both honest and important, the bipolarity of egoism and his fears informs most of the lyrical content making for his most emotive album since 808s (which I personally thought was shit, admittedly), there's some nice disses (I think the Simmons ref is a diss as he was pretty patronising in his "prayers" for Ye), and humorous lines... if you can take a joke
- Combining those two points, this record seems to me to be the album he wanted to put out at the time of TLOP. Theres enough tracks during that period to constitute two regular length records really - one all bluster and swagger, the other of dark introspection. Clearly he went for the former and threw in some of the latter in the middle of TLOP (FML, Real Friends, Wolves). When you hear the leaked songs like 'I Feel Like That' you can see that it was a struggle for him to be honest about his state, and so even though he apparently made most of this album in the past month its not as if it hasnt been on his mind for a long time; the speed just shows how talented he is
- The length of the album is a good thing! He's trying to steer rap albums back into being an artform rather than just a money spinner with a shitload of weak tracks (remember that period in the late 90s where youd have something like 3 good songs, 7 average ones, and about 10 skits?). Also it encourages repeat listening, which again affirms the art of the album in the age of streaming and the crazy amount of songs we have access to.
Weaknesses:
- I dont much care for the two family focused songs, though I think theyre well done and enjoy them when I hear them, I wouldnt listen to them outside of the album; too R n B for me.
- Kanye has perfected his sound, his next album should focus on being a tight lyricist - and no ghostwriters! - its the only place left to go imo
- I think theres a volume boost at track 5, obvs having all the tracks levelled out the same wouldve been good
Jay. You are white.
DeleteAnon, I'm not white. Though I bet I know why you think that. Its the same reason people like me don't get the jobs we deserve. The same reason Kanye is so pissed off all the time. The same reason I'm pissed off half the time.
Delete(It unconscious bias. Figured I should clarify since you're likely an idiot.)
I agree with Jay, but I'm white. I guess I'm a racist? Or an idiot? Or both?
DeleteAssuming you're talking about strictly of his opinion of the album, not necessarily.
DeleteThat said, Jay is almost certainly a right-wing (most likely white) troll pretending to be a disaffected black leftist.
I like how you two had very different reactions to some of the individual songs, but ended up in the same place overall.
ReplyDeleteI think this is easily Ye's worst album: while I'm no fan of Yeezus, that was at least better developed, had a more interesting/new sound, and a couple songs that are part of Ye's pantheon. I'm not taking basically anything away from this.
from now on I'll be checking hiphopgoldenage blog coz Max keep ignoring all the good album e.g Evidence weather or not Styles P G-host and dj premiere which way iz west just to name a few
ReplyDeleteCool. Appreciate your support of the ongoing project of this blog, which would easily explain why you're not seeing those artists pop up.
DeleteAnd if you want to see them do badly on this site, there's always the Reader Review option.
Thanks for reading!
Max, I've been one of your two readers for years! I love this site and I love your reviews. I've been refreshing your site every few hours over the past two days hoping to see this review. I didn't think you would like it, but I'm let down and disappointed by what I read. You let your personal biases take over this review. Even when you liked a beat you regretted liking it. This site is part of my life, so I'll always be a reader but this is a let down.
ReplyDeleteI didn't, and don't, regret liking any of the beats. My issue is with the lyrics, which have taken a sharp downturn in quality as his career is progressed, as he's switched up co-writers. And it is truly impossible to divorce the art from the artist st this very moment. (Even Taylor mentioned the Trump stuff.) I don't think "personal biases" about basic human decency are inherently bad for a review, and I've written about every single Kanye West album, so the themes presented aren't new. Perhaps had I pulled a Pablo and waited two years to write about ye, this would read a bit differently (it would certainly be shorter, I mean damn), but the shelf life of this project is roughly equivalent to its run time.
DeleteCan ge do better? Absolutely. But will he? Given his current set of circumstances it's hard to say.
Thanks for the reply Max. You did regret liking the beat at the end of track 1 when you said "...I regret to inform everyone that it is actually fire." That just seems odd to me, and biased. But to each their own and it's your blog. Again, im disappointed by the tone of this review but I'm still refreshing every day to see your thoughts on Black Thought and I'll be back checking for your review of Kids See Ghosts as soon as that's out. Just because we disagree would never change my love for this blog.
DeleteI chose that specific wording to subvert expectations. I put that in there for the folks who refuse to listen to anything Kanye touches now.
DeletePut another way, it was a joke, which are in abundance on the blog.
You'll be waiting a long time for a Kids See Ghosts review - I'm so far behind on Cudi that it doesn't make any sense for me to use this as an entry point.
I find it pretty funny that he becomes borderline obsessive when working on Pusha T's project and yet rushes his own like it means fuck all to him.
ReplyDeleteDo you guys think Nas' album will be any good? I'd like to think so since Kanye's at least shown that he's kept his aptitude for producing for other artists but Nas' beat selection has been kinda suspect for a long time now.
Nas himself is pretty suspect to me right now. But beat-wise, for me he course-corrected a bit with Life Is Good. I just wish he hadn't aligned with Kanye, as they've only done like three songs together or something, and while I liked those, the producer told should have gone to Salaam Remi or one of the new cats (since we'll never see him and Preemo together again, it seems).
Delete@Vinay Karamil: On a technical level yes – Life Is Good is easily his third-best album re: production and arguably in technical quality, and he's never had as bad an ear for music as e.g., Canibus or Eminem. On a moral level…*maybe* if it steers clear from presenting itself as an introspective endeavor (not enough time to course-correct, no apparent inclination to course-correct, and Life Is Good suffers A LOT from the recent revelations.) Can't really support more than a stream, here.
Delete@Max: The other old-school producers I would've chosen are Muggs and Buckwild. For the new cats, Digi+Phonics, Knxwledge., Frank Dukes and Vinylz come to mind.
I don't personally believe Nas has, or has ever had, the energy required for a Muggs collaboration, but Buckwild could work, and Frank Dukes could be a sleeper.
Deletethis is the most 'meh' Kanye album I've ever heard. at least yeezus made me feel a certain way, this is just forgettable at a time in Kanye's career when he himself is at his most unforgettable (for better or worse)
ReplyDeleteI was tempted to just write "meh" as the body of my review, but I figured you two may actually have wanted to read words.
DeleteMax, the Turbografx 16 was one of the most underrated game console of the early 1990's(along with the Neo-Geo). The Bonk games are probably one of the most underrated games in the history of platforming gaming. Also, I'm sure you have heard about Kelis saying that Nas physically abused her. Even if this is true, you can't deny that Nas is one of the greatest artists(not just rappers) in the history of music(not just in hip-hop).
ReplyDeleteThe original cut of my post (see, I did actually edit stuff!) made a reference to Bonk's Adventure being the only game I really remembered from the Turbo Grafix-16, so you mentioning them is kind of funny. I dug them, but I was a SNES guy.
DeleteThe Kelis accusations (and also the allegations from his previous partner) cause me to look at his catalog differently, especially Life Is Good and the pro-Kelis tracks on Streets Disciple. I've made no secret about how I'm not the biggest Nas fan, but he has one classic album and several terrific songs afterward, but he can still be a problematic artist that I wouldn't necessarily want to support. However, I agree that the accusations are just that, accusations, not recorded fact as of yet, so I'm also watching things play out.
Thanks for the review, saves me enduring the actual music.
ReplyDeleteIf you're going to be arrogant enough to release a 7 track project it had better be something special.
Regardless of the accusations I'm still interested in how the Nas album comes together.
lame ass albums but we love your blog Max keep up the good work don't let our beloved genre die I live the fact that no matter how much we criticize some of your choices but you stand your ground and u respond to us once again thank u south Africa loves MAx
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DeleteSouth Africa loves you Max don't give boy we always discus your album reviews at school one big love my bro from the other side
ReplyDeleteWhat are some of your favourite non-rap albums?
ReplyDeleteInteresting idea for a side project, Max?
DeleteFeel free to review some of The Smiths...
Trust me, I've considered it, but I have no evidence that any of the readers would follow me.
DeleteI only listened to this album once and I don't have a take, but I thought the first half sounded like a new direction for him, and the second half sounded like an amalgam of all of his work. I really enjoyed it, but I need to listen again to have a real opinion.
ReplyDeleteI do think your looking way too far into his politics as Kanye is a provocateur and a marketing wizard, which is my opinion that I posted on your Pusha T review.
I also think Kanye's voice/flow are incredible, even on that Pusha T track. The lyrics are entertaining to me. I should probably read them closer.
Also, to anyone insulting Kanye because he collaborates, you have to admit it's his ear that determines how this stuff ends up. None of these people individually put out anything like the final product that Kanye ends up with. I believe people underestimate Kanye's true impact on these records.
Fuck you and anyone dickriding the alt-right.
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DeleteA lot of poorly constructed opinions in this review but I’ll give one thing.. in Yikes he’s not sympathizing with Russell Simmons. Simmons constantly condescends Kanye, so the line is more in the style of “You’re praying for me?! I should be praying for you!”
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